About this Episode:
What does everyone think of the new Cheryl face? I think it’s just fantastic.
Zombie Cliché Lookout:
Mourning is a funny thing is zombie stories. In real life, mourning is an essential process we must all go through to cope with a loss, and we all go through it differently. In zombie stories, mourning is something else entirely: it’s a liability. When you lose a family member, friend, loved one, coworker, etc. you need to either put a hole in their head with a quickness, or put a considerable amount of distance between yourself and their mouldering remains. Because if you don’t you’re probably not going to be around long enough to regret it.
I knew cheryl would be against leaving her.
Good. That means I’ve defined her fairly well as a character.
man these commics make my week i wonder whats gonna happen next.
Thank you!
the new face is grate its not just a smile theres an expresion and a little mole.
I wish the mole wasn’t there, but what can you do?
Digitally photoshop it out? 😉
I could, but that’d get tedious eventually.
Totally tedious. Even putting on little “x” eyes for corpses takes too long.
I’ve just done up several heavily ‘shopped strips, and it’s very time-consuming.
Exactly. Doing it as a once-or-twice thing is palatable. Changing the look of a primary character for every appearance she makes? No way.
maybe the “mole” is a spot of blood?
Here’s the thing: If it’s the SAME task you’re doing in photoshop every time, you can record it as a macro and just rerun the macro whenever you need to take the same blemish out. If it varies in size and position, that’d probably be a more difficult thing to do.
You could ask in your photo image editor’s forums if there’s an easy way to remove such blemishes, they’ve almost always got an easy editing trick up their sleeves! 😉
It would definitely change in size, etc. every time, but you’re right. Photoshop people might have a trick or two.
Yes! This is what I stayed up for! 😉
I think it’s a great face, although I think now she looks more angry than upset, sad, or freaked out.
After ranting all over your last episode with scientific speculatory junk, I must say that something that always bothers me in movies (of any genre) is when people die WAY too quickly. Unless you get hit in the right places, a bullet can take a few hours to kill you, and without medical attention, you’d just kind of sit there in shock, bleeding out…
But in movies, a non-important character gets shot, and that’s it. He falls over, and he’s dead. Moving on.
I think more realistically, these people would lie on the ground, gurgling or squirming feebly until their deaths. Although one could argue that they may have simply passed out from the pain, and will die anyway while they are passed out, and thus are basically dead already….
Anyway, I feel that Shannon died very quickly. If I was making a zombie comic (oh, wait a second… 😉 ), then I would have had Shannon gurgle something through her bleeding throat, and then the rest of the party would have had to watch her die slowly, knowing there’s nothing that they can do for her in the middle of a zombie-infested city with no medical supplies, and at the same time wondering what last words she’s trying to get across…
Perhaps that’s slightly too dramatic or intense, but it’s just something to consider. I suppose we can just say a minute or two passed between episodes or something!
Anyway, it’s another good episode, can’t wait for Monday’s!
i think she will turn next week. and murphy or someone will shoot her.
I think those are excellent points. People dying quickly in movies bothers me too. Especially when there’ very little trauma (the tea cup in Chronicles of Riddick, for example).
As far as Shannon goes, I was going for the shock of just how quickly this could happen. Stop paying attention and it’s all over. I wanted to kill the character off without giving the group a chance to try to save her, make peace, or say goodbye. Throat ripped out, she passes out and bleeds out in no time.
Above, she may still be slightly alive, just with very, very weak vitals. But for all intents and purposes, Shannon is no more.
i kinda want the team to get stew and leave because its inevitable that she turns into a zombie. what is murphy gonna say about it.
We’ll find out soon enough.
Stewart is absolutely correct, and he needs to be man enough to act long before the zombified Shannon wakes up! Cheryl needs to understand that once Shannon turns, she is no longer their friend!
There’s no two ways about it: Someone will have to make the toughest decision the group’s ever faced, and the sooner the better!
Stew should slice her head off.
Hah. Well that would certainly be graphic.
That’s pretty much what I was going for. Tough choices.
Also, I was wondering why hasn’t any member of the group called Cheryl out on the fact that they’ve seen what makes these people turn into zombies and she somehow missed that vital piece of information?
An excellent question. Let’s see how this standoff plays out.
I think that most people would become emotional when a person that they care about dies, and they’ll forget things; think illogically.
This. This right here.
Stew would be that kind of guy that shows no emotion about a dead group member.
On a side note that is a pretty good face for Cheryl.
if i was murphy i would walk up check her pull do cpr (not mouth to mouth) and tak a ten count if theres no pulse then i will shoot her between the eyes.
Yep, Stewart’s a fake tough guy. That’s exactly what he’d do.
But then again, Stew is kind of right this time.
They wouldn’t like to be around when Shannon becomes zombie :-/
As for Cheryl – agree, great face.
Shannon’s face in the previous episode was damn good, too.
Wasn’t it? That’s in my rotation for surprised/scared women. I used it for Cheryl in one of the upcoming episodes.
I knew Stew would end up becoming a voice of reasoning. The crowd will see him as a heartless cold bastard. But in the world of Zombies, he will grow quickly, and start to learn reason and sense. Such a cruel world to grow up in.
I like zombies..
thats yrew you have to cut your ties in a zombie world hes only 16.
Ah, but what happens if this is only a localized event and quickly contained. Stew would be damaged and unable to reaclimate to society for the rest of his life.
Then hes weak >:|
Plus that would mean a-lot of teenagers would be like that, could start a
“Life is haaaard” Group and talk about his feelings and cut his wrist.
Respectfully disagree.
When people adapt to deal with severe trauma (disaster, war, etc.) , they often have a very difficult time reacclimating to normal society. Look at soldiers with shell shock or those Vietnam vets you always hear about having flashbacks and whatnot. Are they weak? Of course not. They had to adapt psychologically to deal with something, but couldn’t easily go back.
But that’s war against other still mentally viable humans… I guess when it comes to zombies I declassify them into the category of deadly animal. When I view War and soldiers that have come back from such areas I find it far different. Its people firing back and others sneaking right up on you.
Though I guess it could be made similar. Zombies can sneak, and take away those who are close.. And if your surviving with others they sort of become your ‘brothers’ in arms.
But only way I can see that they will truly be taken from the normal society if it does continue to go on and then that becomes life.. I say this because Raiders/Bandits will develop and war will be common life.
Not saying I’m a big fan of Anarchy or anything (Quite the opposite, it breeds dictators) But If a zombie apocalypse would happen I think I would fit in with such a world better.
War against other human beings is quite similar to war against zombies.
In both, you’d be killing what appeared to be other living human beings. Many times in war, the army and individual soldiers encourage racism against the enemy, and try to dehumanize them. If you think of the enemy as savage animals, then they become much easier (psychologically) to kill. It’s how the soldiers can rationalize the killing: they’re not really killing other people, just these subhuman evil animals.
A prime example of this is American soldiers during World War II who fought in the Pacific; they referred to the Japanese soldiers derogatorily as “Japs,” etc. Upon coming home, some soldiers still viewed any Japanese Americans (or other Asian Americans) as the enemy.
Look at what happened to the German people during World War II, they became completely racist against the Jews. They tried to exterminate them, and they thought of them as sub-human. I’m sure that most German soldiers could never rationalize all this killing of other human beings, except that they did not think of the Jews as truly being other human beings.
Dehumanizing the enemy used to be quite common; who could kill another soldier who they saw as another human being, who had a family just like their own at home worrying about them? (Ever read “All Quiet on the Western Front” in High School? 😉 )
A “war” against zombies is highly similar. The zombies really have been physicially dehumanized, but the psychological impact of repeatedly killing creatures which appear to be grotesque distortions of human beings, especially those whom you loved and cared about while they were alive, would be severe.
In order to deal with this trauma, it’s quite possible that the survivors of the zombie apocalypse would adapt psychologically to constant killing, rationally dehumanizing the zombies. If they couldn’t dehumanize them, if they still considered the zombies as human beings… then they might have to adapt in such a way that they lose all regard for human life. Some people might even start to enjoy killing zombies.
So what would happen if there were no zombies left, and a traumatized survivor stumbled upon a city that was well-fortified early on in the outbreak, and was still a thriving center of human society? What if the world began to rebuild afterwards, and life returned pretty much to normal?
I think the survivors would possibly keep some of their violent tendencies. With no zombies left, they might have violent outbursts and end up killing other people. They might even consider nobody to be trustworthy, with old instincts of “they might be infected!” kicking in.
So just the depression or paranoia brought on by traumatic experiences could be crippling. It would certainly be difficult for a survivor who’s been through a lot to settle down again in society.
Who knows what else would happen? A survivor might freak out upon seeing a crippled or mentally handicapped person, who perhaps cannot walk normally, and view them as a shambling zombie just long enough to kill them.
After several years in zombie survival mode, I’m sure it would be difficult to reacclimate to society.
Well said.
I have to respectfully disagree with The Dude Person, I think that a human conflict would be extremely different from a zombie one. In way, you’re killing another HUMAN BEING that talks, sleeps, and might even be exactly like you, except that they live in a different country and speak a different language. When a soldier kills another, he hears their screams, knows that they are in pain. A Zombie doesn’t scream. A zombie, doesn’t have feelings, they can’t feel pain, they won’t scream.
And even if survivors DID keep “violent tendencies,” in this situation, it wouldn’t matter. Dave has already said that there are outbreaks all around the state, (wherever that might be) and I’m pretty sure the outbreak isn’t just in one state. 4 or so survivors aren’t going to make a difference in this town, forget about the state; things are going to get out of hand quickly. It’s most likely that there is an outbreak all around the country, this isn’t going to go away fast, if it was, Dave would have to end it after a few years. I don’t know where Dave is planning to take this, I’m ASSUMING he isn’t going to end it for a few years, so that means this outbreak is big, or will get bigger. Therefore, a “violent tendency” would be good in a society working towards ridding the world of Zombies. I would envision it like the period during a leading up to the revolutionary war, where most everyone had a gun, and knew how to use it.
I don’t remember any stories about soldiers in the revolution having violent tendencies and killing someone, so that didn’t seem to be a problem, and I think that the revolution was worse than many modern conflicts (excluding WW1 and WW2).
I understand the psychological impact of killing a reanimated zombie of someone you knew and cared for, however, it’s all on how you look on it and whether you dwell on it, but that is probably the only major issue in regards to the sanity, other than the incessant moaning of the zombies.
It’s set in an unnamed town in Northeast Lower Michigan.
Regarding the Revolutionary War being worse than WWI or II. That’s really hard to say. You didn’t get as much reporting from actual soldier, embedded journalists, etc. Records probably would have been as detailed as they were in the 20th century. The one thing we do know if that medicine was awful. Amputation was common, as was gangrene and the like. Not fun.
Of course the brutality of all conflicts was great; such is the nature of war. But you must remember that technological advances (specifically the machine gun) made combat in WWI a meat grinder at times. World War II was the most destructive conflict of all time. Whole cities were destroyed, civilian casualties were staggering. And lets not forget all the atrocities.
In the Revolutionary war people were far more harder.. More deaths would accumulate in training than battle. And after awhile the only killing that had actually been done was by some awesome Hill billy Snipers in the trees.
PS~ Most German people didn’t actually know about the Kill Camps. It was a secrete being hidden from even the soldiers by Adolf his secrete police, and all those who had heard the rumors about it.
Dave you misunderstood. I said EXCLUDING WW1 and 2.
“I think that the revolution was worse than many modern conflicts (excluding WW1 and WW2).”
(No offense intended, of course.)
You’re right, I totally missed that. Apologies.
Still a tough call. Korea and Vietnam had their share of brutalities.
I’d be upset if a friend died, but in a zombie world–I KNOW BETTER! I’ve already told my friends that if they turn into zombies on me I won’t hesitate. I’ll decapitate them so fast with whatever I could find! My survival instincts would kick in–there would probably be a split second of “NO…not you! *cry as as I bludgeon them to death with a frying pan* lol Best thing about that scenario is my friends still love me and would do the same for me :} I
Flashes of 28 Days Later here.
Those are good friends, Madame.
I’d probably die, I’d be weighed down by my LEGO.
Hah. It’s amazing how heavy ABS can get when you have enough of it.
C’mon! Go! Sam needs you! They’ll be down to 3 members if they don’t hurry.
Hah! I love that people are worried about Sam. He’s kind of morphed into my favorite character.
Sometimes it’s amazing how the characters of your own creation can sporadically change… they become something you never meant them to be, and sometimes they even surprise you, as if they’d taken on a life of their own. It’s really a beautiful thing when that happens to you.
Yes indeed. Sam’s come a long way from a loose Hudson from Aliens type character.
Lol just came back from holiday and stupidly read this last one for going back a few pages >.<
Oh, that really sucks.
Lol but great character kill off, didn’t see it coming. Well I definetly didn’t when I clicked the Last button lol xD There should be a buttong for Last viewed to not ruin spoilers 🙁
Last viewed is a good idea. I wonder if there’s a way to do that.
I see a machette…
You know what to do.
Hah
Where did the face come from?
The angry face? I believe it came out of either a Castle or Atlantis set.
Yeah….awesome I love it. Mole and all. An angry damsel furious at her gentleman caller. Perfect!
Absolutely. LEGO needs to make more expressive female faces.
Do you have the series 4 surfer girl?
I do. In hindsight I wish I would have gotten two.
I have two and one new unasembled in a bag I opened to see what was inside. We can trade if you want, if not thats cool to. I am sure you have a dupe of some series fig I don’t have.
Holla at meh.
Anything in particular you’re looking for?
Any of the below…I might have the series # off
Series 1 Elf, crash test dummy, clown, magician, ninja, wrestler, caveman
Series 2 roman , Egyptian, disco, explorer, vampire, weight lifter
Series 3,archer
Series 4 Muskteteer, Viking
ok weird…wordpress obviously thinks I am spamming…let me do this without the numbers…
Elf, crash test dummy, clown, magician, ninja, wrestler, caveman
Roman , Egyptian, disco, explorer, vampire, weight lifter
archer
Muskteteer, Viking
Try number 4 since wordpress thinks I am spamming and won’t let me post….
Series 1 Elf crash test dummy clown magician ninja wrestler caveman
Series 2 roman Egyptian disco explorer vampire weight lifter
Series 3 archer
Series 4 Muskteteer Viking
Dave email sent…wordpress thinks I am spamming with my list of figs needed so it won’t let me post.
Yep, they got flagged as spam. Sorry about that.
i told four of my friends that if a zombie apoc happens get clothes and weapons but travel light and go to big five (just like gander mountain) and we will get there knifes, bats, sport shotguns , hunting rifles, sucurity shotguns ect………. and put it in the back of my tahoe(big van maade by honda) and take a road trip to california and live in someone’s mansion. i did not think of the last part from zombie land i just thought it would be fun if it happened in real life.
That’s a lot of shotguns.
My neighbor has 64 guns…i’m prepared.i odubt it would be fun though.
Sounds like your neighbor is prepared, anyway.
We live next door to a gun nut too. Nice guy.
Dave, honestly, I would be more comfortable with a neighbor who likes guns. And has 67 of them. Because if the zombie apocalypse DOES happen, you know where I’m headed.
Oh don’t get me wrong. I’ve got no problem with gun enthusiasts. Everyone needs a hobby.
This is always a moment in every zombie film. A team member gets infected, but there is one person that just refuses to accept the fact that they’re story is over. This is always an interesting part until the person who is doing all the work (Sam in this case) is no longer at a safe vantage point and the whole plan goes to hell. I don’t know if I’ll survive until the next comic! The anticipation!!
Hah. And what happens if we don’t hear from Sam for a while?
Clearly he is rounding up a band of highschoolers who will call themselves “Wolverines”
These things take time.
Such a great, ridiculous movie.
I tried to watch it again not too long ago. It will forever be one of my favorite childhood movies of all time but I couldn’t fight through it. Same with “The Last Starfighter” 🙂
I haven’t seen The Last Starfighter in ages, but I watched Red Dawn last year and still enjoyed it. Probably nostalgia.
Heh, what happens if we don’t hear from Nikolai for a while? I guess we’ll know the anticipation got him…
Hah!
*sits staring at computer, blinks one eye then the other”
Sam probably freaking out right now 🙂 “oh god where are they. are they ok. what is going on im scared. whats taking so long. Crap there is so many. AHHHHHHHHH. (sob)
Hah, I imagine so. Especially after hearing the gunshot.
With any luck, (for Sam) the shot will draw away Zombies.
sam has a crow bar with him right.
Sure does.
YA there are alot of shotguns but also alot of ammo and backpacks ect.
Gotta have room for poptarts tho
And Oreos. We all know they’re zombie’s favorite cookies.
No love for Funyuns?
breff STANK
And some Marx Brothers and Charlie Chaplin.
I heart the Marx Brothers.
Don’t forget Buster Keaton, Nikolai!
And… The Three Stooges!
must see the T.V. people again!!!
All in good time.
I wonder if a clone of her will appear in a closet…
That’s fantastic.
Is that a Dr Who reference?
I took it as a Left 4 Dead reference. When a character is killed, you can usually find them later on in the game locked in a closet. Letting them out strengths the group back to full.
Hmmm…clearly I won the nerdiest comment of the episode challange for this week.
/thread
Congratulations. And good luck to everyone else on Monday!
*takes a bow*
*clap clap*
*claps even more loudly, winning the loudest clapping of the episode challenge for this week*
*stands next to ZombieMutts, takes a bow*
*curtsies*
oh wait….
*falls over dead*
*plays nazi zombies*
*comes back to life as a zombie*
*shoots in head*”oh wait i don’t have a gun do i?”
What are the best zombie movies you all have seen
Off the top of my head I would say:
Night of the Living Dead (I like the 1990 remake by Savini too)
Dawn of the Dead (The 2004 remake is pretty cool)
Day of the Dead
Zombi (Italian zombie flick, often called Zombi 2)
28 Days Later
28 Weeks Later (Good, but the original was incredible)
Shaun of the Dead
Rec (The American remake, Quarantine isn’t bad)
Fido (a bit weird, but still a cool movie)
White Zombie (old school zombies)
La Horde (not the best, but definitely worth a look)
Shaun of the Dead and La Horde are some of my favorites.
Also, if you’re checking out movies on Netflix, Dead Snow is another good foreign zombie flick. It’s in Norwegian, but thankfully, there are subtitles! It’s not quite as good as La Horde in my opinion, but it’s still pretty enjoyable.
Cool call on Dead Snow. That’s a fun movie.
ZombieLand!
I liked Zombieland, but I wouldn’t call it great.
I loved the hole dilemma with Bill Murray, though.
*whole
the charecters should at least give her a grave.even if she’s not in it.anyway it does look like the charecers are mourning her death(becuase of the sad faces)well good luck!
That’d be the neighborly thing to do.
I’m not sure if they have the time… Maybe just put a blanket on her?
“By simply covering a body with a blanket or sheet, it becomes really obvious that this guy had a buddy, a friend, and when he went down, his friend had compassion and covered him up.” – Jaime Sue, L4D Developer Commentary
Now I’m 100% sure this story can only get better. The one thing I hate in most media is that main characters never die. I very much dislike plotkai, and the fact that this comic has none makes me twice the fan I was.
Glad to hear it!
Hey Dave, great comic! I’m LOVING the story! I just started it today!
Anyway…um, I’m a little confused regarding how often this is updated. Is it random or what?
Thanks!
New comics every Monday and Wednesday, new zombie creation every Friday.
ah, right. Zombie creation?
Every week I find a cool zombie-themed creation and feature it here.
Yes, you had a person with Shannon as their favorite.
As long as the mourning period for her isn’t like that mourning period out of The Walking Dead.
since she’s now a slab of plastic meat, I suspect someone like Murphy will be practical and put a bullet in her head?
Hah, not nothing like the Walking Dead. Good lord that was over-the-top. Good show, but it needs some polish.
I wonder how Sam will react to Shannon’s death.
I can’t imagine he’ll be happy about it.
Cheryl- “Sam, we have ba-”
Sam- “HOW could you let someone die 10 seconds after getting out?! I’m surprised you guys can even go to the BATHROOM by yourself!!”
Hah. That’s very authoritative for Sam. But I guess he’d be pretty pumped after being a human diversion.
After almost letting Stew die, I’d think he’d pumped for anything.
Personally, I’m hoping Sam gets cut off from the group, for the time being, and runs into some of the other characters. (News crew, prisoners, maybe new survivors, etc) But that’s my own opinion.
New characters are always welcome, so you never know.
Hello Dave you probably don’t remember me any more since my laptop stopped and it had to be fixed. Now that its working again I have to say things have really unfolded. So many things are happening who knows what will happen next.
I know what’s going to happen next…
And why did Shannon have to die she was tougher than Cheryl 🙁
Life. She isn’t fair.
Undead. She still isn’t fair.
Thanks folks I’ll be here all night and please don’t forget to tip the staff!
hey dave remeber when a few mnoths ago i was talking about5 forrestfire101?well he’s making a 30 minute long zombie mvoie an dit look’s great it’s called zombie universe won’t be out for a while but it look awesome.
Sounds awesome. Keep us informed. I’m sure that’ll get featured as a Zombie Creation of the Week when it’s finished.
well i found the test footage but there’s not much and it’ part of a vlog i found the url but skip to 3:19 here it is http://www.youtube.com/user/forrestfire1001#p/u/2/BEI6GWzs7Bc
ok bye.
Looks interesting. I thought it was going to be stop motion, but live action is still cool.
Those kids are kind of irritating though.
Too true they are. Pretty egotistical.
I’m wondering if it’s part of the act, or that’s just how they are.
i too wonder that anyway i justg sent it to you for the footage and they’re 18 so i think it’s just them being 14 and yes they are really annoying that’s why i barely watch they’re vlogs just movies.and yeah sorry you thought it was stop-motion but i should have listed that it’s live action but they have done some good live action…and they use real guns with blanks in them in the movies they make(‘cept legos)that’s kinda weird.
i ment them being 18 not 14 sorry.
Right on. The preview looked decent, especially since they still consider it rough.
Yo, Dave, Have you ever thought of introducing a Zombie Research Lab in the storyline? Y’know, something that scientists can use to test various things on zombies to try finding a cure? I think it’s something that is seldom used…without zombies biting someone on staff and thus infecting the entire lab.I just asked cause now I’m totally Lego-Zombie-obesessed and am making a ZRL of my own.
I have, in fact, given that a considerable amount of thought.
I know this doesn’t belong here, but I’m almost done with my contest entry. One more Internet order and it’ll be done.
Excellent. I can’t wait to see it.
Dave if you want if you want I can give you a sneak peak.
Nah, I’ll wait to see it in it’s finished glory.
Sorry same “guy” but it typed guy with a capital G.
I’m with Stew for once.
“There’s nothing we can do for her now, we need to get out of here so we can remember her later.”